Beta Olive Charging Dock work-around #1 (soldering method)

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  • Olive Support Team 2

    @Rolland Rice, we are working on sourcing new batteries for affected backers. We will have an easier solution soon not involving soldering or DC power supplies. Please bear with us a little longer.

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  • Olive Support Team 2

    @Shermanq, we are aware of a design flaw with the dock. We have noted that removing the Olive is difficult and some cradles have loose plastic tabs. Our final product will have a fix to these two issues.

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  • Olive Support Team 2

    @Thoor Eriksson and @Ken Cheng, we too (OU) agree that the best solution is to provide every backer with new cradles. Unfortunately right now, we don't have any left, nevertheless we are working on redesign the PCB and fixing the underlying issue that is causing the battery to over-discharge. Afterwards, we will produce new cradles and distribute them. We are not in anyway going to just wait for the redesign process to be concluded to offer you a definitely solution, so we are working on feasible work-around before being able to provide you a re-engineered working Olive cradle.

     

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  • Gabriele Foddis

    Ragazzi, avete visto in questo video le nuove scatole per la ricarica della oliva?

    https://youtu.be/Mf-WXDVbm4A

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  • Dspinks777

    For me the work around didn't work, I believe it's more of the contact pin length...
    If i keep my PC board out of the case and connect my earbuds, they light up. But while inside of the docking station, it's not working.

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  • Ed Morefield

    I bought 2 of these nether one work. Need new ones or refund.

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  • Ken Cheng

    Now that some of us have gotten our chargers to function, I was wondering where exactly are we to offer our suggestions on the beta test?

    Having spent my first day wearing a fully charged Olive,

    • I have to say, it looks rather bulky and feels that way in my ear.

    • Charge life predicted in the app was only 3 ½ hrs, and the charge %age doesn't change over time, unless you unsync and resync.

    • A color a little less noticeable would be a good idea. Probably why most hearing aids are flesh-colored. Particularly since the Olive bulges quite a bit beyond one's ear.

    • I realize I've never worn a hearing aid before, and my hearing is excellent, so I don't know what to expect or what to baseline my experience against, so I'm not the best candidate for feedback. I actually joined the beta in order to give the Olive to my mom.

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  • Michael Levinson

    I am afraid that the workaround is beyond my soldering skill level.  Consequently I found a 502030 battery on ebay near to where I live (important because they only want to ground ship li-po), ordered it and received it in the mail.  It was relatively easy to slip the old battery pins out of the 4 pin connector and then insert the wires from the new battery.  Took less than five minutes and I'm back in business charging again!

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  • Daniel

    @Ken Chen, regarding the size, I have similar earbuds which are larger but fit better and are more comfortable (the Nuheara IQ buds which I use for music). They feel less bulky because they are made to fit the left or the right ear and are shaped differently for each ear.

    My hearing is not excellent with moderate hearing loss on both ears more so on the left ear.  For the short period in which the Olives worked I had excellent results with the Olives as hearing aids, so they should work well for your mom.

    I suggest the Olive Union open a forum for beta testers to sign in to offer and share their comments and suggestions.  It could be divided into sections like

    Packaging

    Dock

    Charging

    Connectivity Pairing

    Earbuds

    App

    LED Controls

    etc

     

     

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  • Gabriele Foddis

    Anche io spero nella apertura di un forum, possibilmente anche con una suddivisione per nazioni.

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  • Ken Cheng

    How long has it taken other people for their cradles to fully charge after doing the kickstart method to revive their batteries? Mine seems to have taken more than 30hrs, before the green led on the cradle has turned off.

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  • Dfmartinemail

    I have two betas - one for each ear.  My attempt at the workaround was unsuccessful and I ruined one cradle.  I took the second cradle to a computer shop and the guy was successful for $30 USD.  But now I only have one cradle for two Olives.  Olive usage is only 4 hours.  I can hear for 4 hours, then charging for 4 hours (2 hours for each Olive).  Although when the Olives are working, the quality is better than I expected I am looking forward to replacement cradles (please)  and the development of a longer use of the Olive before a charge is needed and/or faster charging time. 

    Also - in further development - the little square "holders" to make the Olive fit snuggling in the cradle fall out too easily.  Mine have shown the need to be snuggly in the cradle in order to charge. 

    Also, I did not receive varied sizes of earbud covers.  Only the one on the Olives.

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  • Gabriele Foddis

    Dicevano che la durata sarebbe stata di 16 ore........cazzate.

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  • Dfmartinemail

    Ken Cheng...  My ears are at a 45% loss and a 50% loss of hearing.  I have worn some sort of hearing aid since my late 20" (I'm 60 now).  Relacing broken hearing aids have become unaffordable to me.  I have been without aids for about 3 years now.

    So far - with only about 3 hours of testing them before they lost their charge and the cradle event, etc. - they have been much better than I expected!!!!!  

    Even some of the more expensive brands of digital aids can have a painful sharpness to them.  The Olives have not!  I haven't tested them enough - but I'm happy so far.

    I hope that answers the query you made above.

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  • Russell Nelson

    I was able to use the SparkFun Li-Po Basic Charger to successfully charge my battery similar to what Roy Emmerich was trying to do. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10217 . Used two wires tinier than what Roy used.

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  • Mark

    For reference - i have been wearing ReSound hearing aids for the last 4 years.  I have about a 50% hearing loss in each ear for various reasons.

    For the size the Olive it should have inductive (wireless) charging in them.

    One thing I noticed before mine died, charger not working, is that with moderately loud talking/noise or my dog barking they are distorting and buzzing.  Very annoying.  I doubt they would be useful in a noisy environment like a restaurant.  BTW, understanding conversation in a noisy place is the hardest thing for someone with a hearing loss.  There should be different profiles for different environments. 

    Consider making the battery replaceable with a disposable battery in case of emergency, when you are out of range of a charger.  My hearing aids go for 4 days on a tiny spec of a disposable battery.  If I stream music for 8 hours a day, they might only last 2.5 days.

    How about streaming audio from the phone, since the connect via Bluetooth.  Also, why not stream audio from a phone call aka like in a $19 bluetooth headset.

    Color - most hearing aids are a light shade of gray or beige to blend with the color of your skin or ear.  I'm not looking for ear jewelry.

    Volume control - there seems to be no way to raise or lower the volume.  The app doesn't work for volume control and that only seems to show that it could possibly raise it.

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  • John Campbell Rees

    I have found the USB charger for the Cheerson CX10 micro quadcopter will plug directly into the battery socket in the cradle and charge the Olive. These cables are available on the Cheerson web site for US$3.99.

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  • Ken Cheng

    @John, haha, you're a genius! I had to look at your picture twice to see what you had done. Of course, I had an extra Cheerson CX10 sitting around that I hadn't gifted to one of my nephews and nieces. And, you're right, it works brilliantly, no soldering necessary.

    Thanks to all those with experience for their comments on how the Olive is working for them. I appreciate it. And Gabriele, thanks for the info, I can work on my italian!

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  • Erick Uceda

    Interesting! I found this on Amazon, wondering if it's worth it.

    CX-10 Spare Part 2pcs 3.7v 100mAh Batteries and 1 USB Charger Cable for Cheerson CX-10 Rc Quadcopter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CTWWVBC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_1Fz4zb4SFG8JK

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  • Gabriele Foddis

    100 mAh è troppo poco

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  • John Campbell Rees

    For clarification.

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  • Gabriele Foddis

    @John Campbell Rees Can you send me a link?
    Thank you.

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  • Gabriele Foddis

    Questa forma e questo modi di ricarica è molto confortevole.
    Senza Fili Cuffia Bluetooth Portatile-TOSCIDO Mini Bluetooth 4.2 Auricolare per iPhone, Samsung, IOS, Android,Compreso la scatola di ricarica a doppio, stereo, CVC6.0 Annullamento del rumore-bianca https://www.amazon.it/dp/B0753H55YB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uIF4zb9M26RYQ

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  • Michael

    Hello Olive Union,

    As you are making design modification to the cradle please consider using an LED that is MUCH less bright.  This one lights up the entire room!

    Looking forward to a new battery...

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  • Ken Cheng

    Definitely more organic looking, and not as visually obvious being lighter in color, but still quite large. It says the ear piece is ¾" in diameter. Presumably the organic shape fits a little better.

    @Erick, the batteries are quite small, only 40% the size of the existing one, so they won't last very long. Perhaps, one recharge instead of several.

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  • giulineu

    A Gabriele Foddis

    sembra che in Italia siamo almeno in due ad aver aderito al beta test di questo apparecchio acustico.

    Il mio caricabatteria non funziona e io non ho le capacità tecniche per le modifiche proposte. Vorrei comunque rimanere in contatto con te su questo progetto e ti passo il mio recapito che è giulineu (giuliani primaparte + neurologo prima parte) attraverso la posta gmail. Un saluto

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  • Bob Buchholz

    I followed Kevin Fitzpatrick's lead and use a 3.7 v drone battery and it worked. I just pulled the wires out of the dead battery and stripped them a little and stuck them in connector slots so that it can go back into the drone when I'm done or back to its charger if necessary.

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  • Ball D

    I have performed the work around and it is charged but still does not pair with my Samsung Android.

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  • Ball D

    My bad I again followed the instructions and it is now paired with my Samsung android :)

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